I'd say.. if there's a particular site you like..
maybe ask the admin for the css / html, and or menu html files and work from those..
as it is.. chops gives you a prebuilt CSS and html files..
I litterly started just hacking those to my licking
though some of the coloration is also controlled by the site itself..
I make a lot of use of the Test It button
and just set my css file path to a different one than I'm using for live site.
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Louis T.
The Spreading Taint - WoW Group Admin
Rough Trade - Assistant Admin